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”(social) layer or caste in a place of class”

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The relations within the society take again openly form of slavery, for which the rulers use the cover name democracy. We can speak about the democratic slavery (as it actually was in the very beginning of the use of this term –was it in Athens?)

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“And again - one more trying: “Bodies” or “minds” could alternate the word “workers” –  keeping the ”psychic workers”

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I see a danger in those statements what was essential trick of all bourgeois revolutionaries – the statement “we are all humans” – the problem appears when realizing that there are different human beings – those who produce and those, who are managing the produced – that is where inhumanity starts and that is why we still need the concepts like worker and class. Of course, the etymology (I included that concept because I felt that it is essential position of miscommunication in the common debates) of those words is very much connected to obsolete contexts mostly related to 19th century and is hardly acceptable to us now – simply – not trendy. But the essence of the words is still the same – that is why probably the biggest efforts from institutionalized academicians were brought to disfashion and to erase those concepts from the common usage.

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Also I think that if someone dislikes the word – that is an ability to translate it to his/her own language diverging from urdu, Russian or Arabic to zet-english or red-ass-english…

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Yes, it gives sense, but I see todays society not so clearly devided into the “those who produce and those, who are managing the produced” – and l see the thing as more complicated – in most cases both mentioned are fire-able employees of intertwined system ruled but not clearly appointable individuals. Its easier to define the worker – even when in some places of the world it really doesnt exist anymore in the 19trh century meaning of the world, than the other classes. Its so tricky that the cruciat enterprises are not in one hand and when we get to shareholders etc…we are lost talking about class. So I would say : if we leave the feudal counties like the UK, and few others, the clear class structure doesn’t exist anymore – maybe this fact makes usage of words like class kind of outdated, more than the bad sound caused by their overuse in mainly easteuro-asian totalitarian regimes of the 20th and 21st century. Yes I like the expression: psychic worker very much, even when I am not sure about the optimism about finding the meaning.

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“Individual” in the sense that we appreciate the individual qualities, contributions, but do not overestimate them. The individual approach is the best instrument to fight the racism.

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“Communal” in the sense that two is better than one, not speaking about more  –  knowing that even  one sometimes seems to be unreachable amount in times of not complex identities.

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My vision of better future could be called PANTONOMIA – system enabling parallel existence of different autonomous models, opened certain way that one could choose in which s/he/it wants to live.

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individual and communal are not oppositions anymore – organization could be as one-person as communal, temporary, or permanent – that is a multitude into union. But there I must say that I disagree with correction of the words “one and the same” into “similar” in the sentence “Our struggles are one and the same and we see it as a priority for workers and organisations with access to resources to support those who do not have access to resources” - the problem is exactly that our treatment of our struggles was as they are similar – the point is that it is the one struggle (different modes, tactics, strategies, approaches, but it’s totally one) – that is what the union is need for. The problem is still that we are too much into the concepts and ourselves identification with it – the point is not a glossary of things to identify with, the point is doing things and then to find words for it – good things done can improve even mistrusted words.

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I completely agree on ideological and strategic level, but as I am scared from any ideology and I kind of hate total expressions like: forever, never, always, one and the same, the only …etc. for their hypnotic ultimate value, I usually try to change them into something less pathetic.

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remember "communal" has a very different meaning in India!

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Maybe we need to define "we" and "i"
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We = west essex
us = united state

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there is enough of eight I to constitute WE or to be more precise WE = 4 obliques + 1 vertical + 3 transversals

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I still don’t like the  optimism as to the Institute of “organisation”. Organisation is something which obtains in its essence the self-assuring, self-referring, self-supporting tendencies, which kill the healthy doubts and especially in case of organisations appreciated suicidal inclinations.
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It depends on how you’ll treat the word – as an organism or as a corporation… I found nothing bad in the word itself – the substitution of the word with “gatherings”- here we step back to the same problem discussed above as described “we all are the humans”. Due to the corporational or capitalist mode of the organization‘s structure – there is a mechanism of self regulation as proposed by DAMTP:

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But we reject from the conduct of those workers who are less organized then we are

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We welcome and encourage the leading by less organized workers

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Once the organization requires the subordination of the members (in case of organization of one: of its member) its fucked up (differently than appealed FUCKING UP! From the Alytus slogan). I imagine joining beings for some reason and, for the duration of the reason without duty to follow the decisions in the moment they start to sound odd. No feedback responsibility!

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General strike is a full scale and global refusal from participation in exploiting models.

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This is too abstract and it would sink into endless debates where exploitation starts…. “when anarchists will start to tolerate each other – they will start to tolerate all people”. I think there is pretty enough to fight a wish to participate in capitalist mode of production, what is a biggest exploitation mechanism at present moment.

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HA ! Here I must say that capitalism is dead and todays exploitation mechanism deserves also a different name – not even the different adjective like corporational , If to use something from past terms then maybe more suitable would be:neofeudalism, or: neoslavery, or: globalslavery (with mostly hiden masters). The history coming back, trying to apply the seemingly forgotten models, using the technologies and psychological knowledge of today. So: slavery supported by slaves, participating, collaborating, involved with keeping the system (under different names and different cover ideas) running.
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psychic worker – that is a possible word to identify ones activities with

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psychic worker is simply the producer of the meaning and differs from those who manage, own, simulate the meaning. I myself have distrust in the coept of “to identify with” - it has very strong dependence on bourgeois cultural system – to always to identify with some models and to play some role… I would take the concept psychic worker as a key concept to understand the mechanisms proceeding in the capitalist system of production of meaning – there I found myself located after many years of trying sincerely play the role of an artist and a teacher.

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I agree with mistrust to “identify with”

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I also mistrust to “production of meaning by the psychic workers – maybe “attempt to search for meaning”

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Also start hating the word production – that is the real evil.

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This is very basic word and it differs from the machine called “capitalist mode of production” (that what leads towards gaining a profit).

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“Produce” I feel as doing something with some idea of further use in mind – real evil – no innocence!

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devaluation of the general intellect

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I think there is something wrong in it – might be somebody will add more exact note – there is no value in the general intellect because it is “an active, living, impersonal, critical mind in itself” – this is a critique of “abstract knowledge”, it is in itself devaluation… this is what the DAMTP is tending to be about…

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General intellect is another bullshit – that derives from overestimation of the role of reason. Intellect is what fails the most. I would prefer general mind or conscious – but I dislike also the “general” maybe: common? , shared?, Generated?

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We welcome doubts!

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There I remembered our discussion about skepticism – what is about the doubt if communication is not verbal?

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THEN NON VERBAL DOUBTS!

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And to come back to the issues of the congress:

We’ve had experienced together verbal and non verbal communication

We’ve had experienced together panlinguistics and nonlinguistics

We’ve had experienced together created situations

We’ve had experienced individual and collective skepticisms (or doubts) – mostly addressed to the (mis)concepts (worker, football, (in)comprehensible language/message, spectacularity of marching, not structured topics, anthem ritual, skepticism itself etc) – this shows nothing but how sick from capitalist relationships we all are…and each in a different way… and substitution of the words would not abolish the skepticism itself, because the words are never adequate to reality .

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even when sick from these whatever (don’t want to use the word capitalist without brackets or quotation marks anymore) relationships we still mostly think and act within their logic.

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I do not think we are an organization and I never had any intentions on pushing towards it – but so far we agree on many common things –

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This is why I started using the word convergents in place of comrades (even when the Czech meaning of the word kamarad is totally apolitical: means: a friend)

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I am sure we can proceed further on forming the union – the union of multitude of entities is possible even including all skepticisms prevailing, without chairmen, dues – but with solidarity – thanks to all of you for it.

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This more reminds the also ugly word: network

+ before I will say: with best wishes

one more explanation to zet-english – I wrote this:

We love, live and reject death!

But when I read it today I see it maybe means something different than I wanted – the intended meaning was:

We love death, we live death we reject death!

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We love and live death and we reject it!

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…reading all this what I wrote I see – I have some problem with words

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Rather than make triangular (which is two dimensional) trimensionalisation means three dimensional - going beyond the four dimensional straight jacket into an opening up of layered three dimensional trimensions - so a situation can be understood as having endless sensual dimensions of ever increasing complexity
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this process involves concentrating and reducing one aspect of activity or work to zero dimensions eg point or event or letter